The stall speed is stock and also has a stock stator. This camshaft is getting aggressive for a daily driver application. With a stall converter i think you should always have a transmission cooler. Great option for daily driver vehicle looking for a little more stall.
The differences between your race car and daily driver torque. There are some downsides to a new torque converter, but nothing that a serious performance enthusiast will mind too much. The right torque converter can make or break your cars performance. Feb 25, 2010 i have also used a ger converter 2200 stall speedand transmission before. Also i will need a spare block for the build as i intend on still driving my ss while im building its new engine. Oct 27, 2017 you must have a torque converter with the right amount of stall to allow the engine to get into that powerband for optimum performance, even in a dailydriver street car. This converter has been a workhorse with the allison platform since its inception. High stall convertors i would recommend not going beyond a 2500 rpm stall for street use. If you have any questions feel free to comment down below, ill try my best to answer them. The fact is, brand new cars of all kinds could stand a torque converter upgrade. A lockup will be just like the factory converter while cruising, but will perform just as well as a non lockup durring launches.
I would say the 3,600 is probably about right as it does stall up pretty high, but i would like to get back closer to a stock converter for driveability and better mileage. He has a few upgrades on the vehicle, one of them being a 3500 stall converter. Oh, and what would be a good stall speed for this motor. Brian tooley racing btr naturally aspirated stage 3 cam. This slightly higher than stock converter produces good idling with mild street rod designed cam shafts. What does a stall converter do and does it affect daily. Second, torque converters dont help fuel economy on daily drivers. Breakaway streetstrip torque converters tci automotive. My goals for the engine are for it to be a daily driver, fuel injected, making 400450 rwhp. I run a 2800 11 converter but flashes to around 3200 rpm or so.
Torque converter basics to bring speed and drivability to your ride. A good 3200 converter will have very nice street manners. Our street converters are the standard of the industry by which all others are. If you have a bigger than stock camshaft, you must get the right stall to allow the engine to.
I have a coan 10 inch converter in my car flashes to about 3800, with high 1. Stage 1 street converters florida torque converter. A good 3200 stall will be your golden ticket, talk to rob at speedrated and youll be a happy man. Mar 22, 2018 when it comes to parts, the stall converter is considered the best bang for your buck. How will a 2400 torque converter affect daily driving discussion in 4th gen camaro lt1 19931997 camaro. Car has custom grind cam, trick flow heads, yank ss 3200 stall. You dont want to have to floor your gas pedal and wait a few seconds for your vehicle to move. In general, the desired stall speed should be 500700 rpm below the engine rpm at peak torque. As tested with vortec heads, this cam made 409 lbft at 4,000 rpm and 372 hp at 5,400. Tsp 224r 581 112 lsa stall recommendations for daily driver. Its a twin desk factory converter and if i recall correctly the stall is in the low 2000s. Ive heard differing reports on how they affect stock daily drivability. A good quality converter wont slip excessively at highway speed.
When i set one of these transmission up for a good performing daily driver i prefer to delete the direct drive assembly and set stall somewhere between 2000 and 2400 depending on gears. Aug 01, 2008 the xe268h should work with a stock converter but is better with at least a 2,000rpm stall speed converter. The differences between your race car and daily driver torque converter comparing the torque converter in your daily driver or tow vehicle to the one in your drag race car is like comparing the kid that grows up to be an office manager to his or her sibling that pursued a career in the us marine corps. Your stall speed may vary in your specific application. You could also just run a lsazl1 factory torque converter. What would be the best stall size to get on my daily driven z28.
I ran this converter with the btr stage 3 torque cam and it solve my problem of pushing through the brakes. When it comes to parts, the stall converter is considered the best bang for your buck. Sep 24, 2012 i am looking at a dodge challenger from a private owner on craigslist. Hello, i am in the process of an engine rebuild and the builder recommended that i install a 2400 torque stall converter. I am old school and this is first modified modern computerized vehicle. How will a 2400 torque converter affect daily driving. The evolution of lockup torque converters circle track. I am in the process of an engine rebuild and the builder recommended that i install a 2400 torquestall converter. By letting the engine rev higher before engaging, a higher stall torque converter can drop fuel economy. The engine will probably have 400420 fwhp and probably use a cc503 cam. The ger converter was supposed to be 2800 but was stupid tight. Whereas, we will sometimes use 4,000 rpm stall converters on strip street cars.
The big shot 12ls is an excellent converter for long distance cruising with mild performance increases, good lockup, and minimal mpg loss. Highest stall speed for a street car for a bodies only. Dont stalllaunch your performance to the next level with topquality torque converters. So are there any driveability issues with having a 3200 stall converter. But for serious racing they certainly make the car launch. High stall converter on the street roadrunner converters. I am in the process of an engine rebuild and the builder recommended that i install a 2400 torque stall converter. The stall speed assigned is simply a way to rate the converters performance level.
The article mentions that brand new 2010 camaros are shaving half a second of the quarter mile going with a new torque converter. Most of the daily driven street cars we build have anything from 2,400 on up to a 3,500 stall converters in them and they are very streetable with no problems. This new converter uses the same basic internal components stators, etc. Likewise, under most driving conditions the torque converter will start delivering power to the transmission at relatively low engine rpm. Comp cams chevy small block cams tested cam wars hot rod. I will be doing headsintake this summer and probably the supercharger in the fall or a stroker not sure yet. High stall torque converter acceleration before and after youtube. Streetfighter rough idle, large fuel system, raised compression. From daily drivers to drag cars, lockup torque converters have changed the industry. Saturday night special smooth idle, stock compression. Mar 28, 2018 i do a little drive in my hc with a stall 2002 trans am ws6 give you my impressions as i drive it and the struggles that i have had. Third, depending on how theyre tuned, you can get loose throttle response when youre not racing. In order for a 2800 stall converter to be efficient enough for daily driving you would have to have 4. Most of the daily driven street cars we build have anything from 2,400 on up to a 3,500 stall.
If a 27003000 is selected, you should be able to footbrake stall the converter to about 2700 rpm depending on the vehicles setup. Im not sure what stall i have in my truck right now i assume its stock th350 at 22002500, but im thinking it would be best to leave it alone since the truck is a daily driver and the 30003600 stall would generate too much heat. Apr 20, 2018 welcome to the dasllamas youtube channel. But, another safe way to get a reading that will be within 100 to 200 rpm, is to have a manuallyshifted automatic transmission, or a way to hold it in high gear 1. If youre considering using a high stall converter on the street, read this post. Bishop is running on of our fti converters with a 3200 stall in his 426. May 05, 2004 also this used converter is for much less than the new edge converter. Daily driver 383 stroker build chevy impala ss forum. This ensures a margin for application for the torque converter to take off. I do a little drive in my hc with a stall 2002 trans am ws6 give you my impressions as i drive it and the struggles that i have had.
Jul 18, 2004 a lock up will activate the tcc torque converter clutch at cruising speeds durring low engine load so the engine will be directly connected to the trans and will be better for a daily driver and better on gas milege. If you have a bigger than stock camshaft, you must get the right stall to allow the engine to also idle in gear, and make the car function as it should. Now if you drag race your corvette all the time, go ahead and put the higher 3600 rpm stall convertor in. Choose from a variety of stall speeds to help you put maximum lowend power to the pavement. Im trying to slowly build a sleeper so im looking for performance. Just got a 383 stroker and the po ran a 3000 stall converter but his car was only driven to and on the track.
In this video i talk about what it is like to drive a high stall torque converter. This is a discussion on daily driver best stall size within the automatic transmission forums, part of the drivetrain category. If you have an automatic transmission and youre concerned about. Ive been reading up and trying to understand the idea behind stall converters after untying my head from the knots of numbers and diff ratios i summized that they are only good for standing starts. One of the biggest bangs for the buck you can buy is a stall converter. You must have a torque converter with the right amount of stall to allow the engine to get into that powerband for optimum performance, even in a daily driver street car. Torque converter basics to bring speed and drivability to. Originally posted by crusty stall converter s are used to make an auto more drivable when you have something like a big cam installed, otherwise it will surge something fierce unlike a manual where you can control the clutchrpms as you drive around carparks. Okay rebuilding motor and putting tsp 224r 581 112 lsa in my 5. If your car is a daily driver, im not sure you want one that big. I have no probs what so ever with that this is my daily driver too. The range listed will tell you what to expect from the converter. If this is correct would it be worthwhile chucking a 2200 on a daily driver or would the money be better spent elsewhere.
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